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Re: Them Crooked Vultures - выход первого альбома
« Ответ #165 : 30 Декабрь 2009, 10:20:51 »

Со вчерашнего вечера в голове стали играть фрагменты из альбома. Утром по дороге на работу слушаю. Очень забавный переход - после Them Crooked Vulrues у меня идет концертник Benny Goodman)) В такую снежную погоду шикарно слушается...

А TCV нравятся на 80-90 процентов. Но не на 100, и, чувствую, на 100% не полюбится. Так как есть некоторые моменты, что мне не по душе. Но при этом естьмоменты от которых "крышу сносит".
Сейчас чуть поработаю, потом могу расписать свои впечатления от каждой песни, "что, где и как".
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Re: Them Crooked Vultures - выход первого альбома
« Ответ #166 : 30 Декабрь 2009, 18:36:00 »

Ну вот наконец я этот альбом захавал.  Три номера (1, 12, 13) зацепили сразу, но постепенно все остальные тоже раскрылись. Не понимаю чего народ так смущается, а кое-кто и возмущается звуком. Очевидно же, что любая прилизанность саунда пойдет только во вред. Эта музыка вообще изрядно наполнена разными смыслами, и колючий звук гитары тоже не случайным образом появился, вообще работа сделана с мозгами и все там не просто так. Видимо надо еще врубаться в тексты, мне кажется они там не просты и чувствуется, что в самой музыке многие фразы и фишки следуют именно текстовым смыслам. Где бы надыбать? Голос, кстати, оказался весьма приятным, очень интересные мелодии.
В общем обнаружил много красивого и драматического на этой пластинке, будет у меня в фаворитах, по разряду "умный рок".

PS. Как и все остальные работы с Джонсом, надо слушать на полной громкости, иначе один из смыслов музыки потеряется.
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Re: Them Crooked Vultures - выход первого альбома
« Ответ #167 : 30 Декабрь 2009, 19:03:32 »

Цитировать
что в самой музыке многие фразы и фишки следуют именно текстовым смыслам. Где бы надыбать?

Тексты  имхо просто отличные, на уровне музыкального материала, ... завораживают  и интригу сеют



NO ONE LOVES ME AND NEITHER DO I

I think I saw her for the first time maybe in a news stand...
She was nickin' a mag
and dressed oblique.
She called me baby
and "was it me maybe
with a song on the radio?"
So I told her I was rich then she asked "Could I use a dirty bitch?"
Of course...

Then she said,
No one loves me &
neither do I.
You get what you give,
I give goodbye &
if I should vanish,
don't get caught off guard &
don't hold it against me -
unless it gets hard...

If sex is a weapon then SMASH! BOOM! POW!
How you like me now?
You can't always do right,
but you can always do what's left.
When I told her I was trash she winked and laughed and said "I already know.
I gotta a beautiful place to put your face."
And she was right.

Then I said,
No one loves me &
neither do I.
It makes perfect sense,
so I never ask why.
All gone tomorrow,
because life doesn't wait.
You can keep your soul,
I don't need a cell mate.

Call me I'm loose & ready to go,
people in the world about to lose control.

I know how to burn with passion,
hold nothing back for future ration.
Give all you are, do not make haste,
savour every single taste.
You get...got.

I know how to be controlled,
do opposite of what you're told.
Be quick, react, to break the box,
& turn on cue as your cell door locks...
behind you.

I know how to be lost in lust,
not because you should, but because you must.
It burns white hot & so clouds the mind,
it's lightning strike isn't always kind.

So, use me up.
---------------------------

MIND ERASER, NO CHASER

Run along face lift
If it kills, I got news, it ain't a side effect
Call it a full rejeckt or
A fuel injected, type corrected, TEENAGE OBSTACLE

All I wanna do is have my mind erased
I'm begging you, pleading you, stop comateasing us all
Drug company, where's a pill for me?
I call it mind eraser, no chaser at all
On permanent leave of everything
Law biding DICK RIDING, FUN police, leave us alone
Dulling the edge of a razor blade
What does it mean when the knife & the hand are your own?

Give me the reason why the mind's a terrible thing to waste?
Understanding is cruel the monkey said as it launched to space
I know that I'm gonna be your dangerous side effect
Ignorance is bliss, until they take your bliss away

Robotic mom bought me,
DIY kit lobotomy
It's a tuck, taste, dance craze, movie of the week
YOU'LL BUY THE DOLL, kick the ball
Then piss on the sheets

All I wanna do is have my mind erased
I'm begging you, pleading you, stop comateasing us all
Drug company, where's a pill for me?
It reads- mind eraser, no chaser- in bright lights
On permanent leave of everything
New age goostep on a karma collision
Dulling the edge of a razor blade
What does it mean when the knife & the hand are your own?

Give me the reason why the mind's a terrible thing to waste?
Understanding is cruel the monkey said as it launched to space
I know that I'm gonna be your dangerous side effect
Ignorance is bliss, until they take your bliss away

I know that I am, your dangerous side effect

I'm not sorry to say we just ran out of give a shit.

---------------------------------------------------------------

NEW FANG

New fang,
no thang.
Had it made
to parade,
found a sucker,
now I want another.

Stand up,
step aside,
open wide,
handing out & on
UNTIL THE FEELINGS GONE

Want to?
Yes, I do.
Wanna learn,
taking turns getting carpet burns.

Loose lips,
lipstick spit.
Come or go,
I think it's both I gotta know.

Sometimes you break a finger on the upper hand,
I think you've got me confused with a better man.
Sometimes you break a finger on the upper hand,
I know you've got me confused...

...for a better man.

No slack,
cadillac,
couldn't quit,
gums flap so...
HERE'S YOUR TEETH BACK

Accept
what I left
far behind in a time
when my mind was like a landmine.

Tailgate,
by the lake,
too much, too young,
every button gonna come undone.

Tightrope,
no joke,
nothing left,
so you go baroque.

-----------------------------------------------

DEAD END FRIENDS

I drive all alone, at night,
I drive all alone.
Don't know what I'm headed for.
I follow the road, blind.
Until the road is dead end.
Night's in my veins, it's calling me,
racing along these arteries &
law, is just a myth
to herd us over the cliff.

I follow the road at night,
just hoping to find
WHICH PUZZLE piece fell out of me.
I know who you are,
open the door & climb in.
Hold me real close, then do it again,
I ache for the touch of my dead end friends & oh,
I gotta know...
is it dead
at the end of the road?
I can tell
by that look in your eyes,
we're the same,
MY DEAD END FRIENDS & I

WE DRIVE all alone at night,
a never ending begin.
Sweet as a curse just out of reach,
which awakens the dead end part of me & oh,
no more wandering.
Just me
& my dead end friends again.

Dead end friends.

Dead.

------------------------------

ELEPHANTS

Painted as monsters,
borracho, cansado.
Do you know what the people say?
Plucked from the garden
of wicked beliefs,
I offer a rose
& smile with harmless teeth.

Then slick back my hair,
YOU KNOW THE DEVIL'S IN THERE?
Alone in the garden.
Like lumbering giants
in a shameful parade,
we came to ruin all &
make a rotten trade.

So roll over...

Scattered on the shore,
surely washed away.
Feeling somewhat deserving
of what will be someday.
No I can never stay MELANCHOLY,
I've the memory of your face.
No I can never stay melancholy for long...

until I move on.

We're unwanted strangers,
exploited & dangerous,
unable to hide or even dream of it.
Como estas,
parting the seas,
like lepers who stroll,
why you afraid sweety?

I slick back my hair,
you know the devil's in there?
So keep one eye open baby.
We're so easy to spot,
lepers riding atop.
Pachyderms full of germs,
elephants broken & screaming &...

SCATTERED ON THE SHORE,
surely washed away.
Feeling somewhat deserving
of what will be someday.
No I can never stay melancholy,
I've the memory of your face.
All alone in the garden
of long lost hopeful plans.
No I can never stay anything.....
for long.

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SCUMBAG BLUES

Innocence has no resistance
against a wicked counsellor such as I.
You won't make it out.
Shall I lead you to my parlour,
poison offers disguised, in just your size.
You won't make it out.
You may think me altruistic,
feel my dark hypnosis closing in.
You won't make it out.

Then you grow cold,
cold
as a stare.
As if no,
none,
could compare.
But you don't know,
how close,
to ensnare.
When I control,
you will
despair.

Sycophancy, solipsistic,
SPIDER PLAYS THE FOOL
TO LURE THE FLY.
You won't make it out.

Then you grow cold,
cold
as a stare.
As if no,
none,
could compare.
But you don't know,
how close,
to ensnare.
When I control,
you will
despair.

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Re: Them Crooked Vultures - выход первого альбома
« Ответ #168 : 30 Декабрь 2009, 19:07:44 »

BANDOLIERS

It's too late,
I got hit by the closing door
& as I watched myself reflect
on the wrong side of...
My you've changed.
You turned a corner I'll never go.
I admit I feel a bit deceived.
You're expecting I'd follow.

Bandoliers,
to fight me dear.
NOBODY CAUSED THE RIFT.
We've just grown apart now...

You'd better prepare
then take aim
& fire
Prepare
then take aim
& fire
.....on me

If that's the way it has to be.

Fooling myself,
fooling myself into believing you
& all these fictionary tales
you're telling yourself.
So selfish,
like a child that's never heard a no,
I watched this ever changing you,
never find us.

Bandoliers,
to fight you dear.
Nobody caused the rift.
I can't become what I'm not.
You've always had my heart,
so if it must be broken.

YOU'D BETTER PREPARE
THEN TAKE AIM
& FIRE

Fire away...

...if you must, but I only came,
just to let you know
this is goodbye.

You'd better prepare
then take aim
& fire.
Know that no one can make me
fire.

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REPTILES

I tried to make a break,
what a fool,
I should've known
*I never listen*
I'm in a cage,
an animal,
I'm in a cage.

But the reptiles,
they won't let me go.
I think they want you to stray.

Watch the monkey dance,
give 'em a taste.
Look at him
*he's always smiling*

Help me to escape!
*your mouth agape*
You foreign tourist...
Woe is me,
it will be a funeral,
a circus,
I'll rap on the cell door.

QUESTIONS ARE A FIRE
THAT NEEDS FEEDING
TO SURVIVE
So just you let those flames
die down.

Trained by consequence & the lash
it leaves me breathless.
Their praise is a poison to us all.
In the moonlight...
their scars flash like jewelry.
Get too precious...
get locked up in a cage.

Want to get,
gotta risk,
any move
misconstrued
& your screwed.
Tongues flash & flick as if they're
screamin.

Oh they lie
just like any lover,
oh do they,
those kisses will burn.
Under the lights,
they snap a finger,
you jump, you answer,
like a naive hooker
with a big dumb smile.

For the reptiles,
I guess you'll never know.
They won't let you go,
cause YOU'RE THE
SOUP DU'JOUR,
that's for sure.

Questions are a fire
that needs feeding
to survive.
So just you let those flames die down.
See them reptiles crawl?
Getting closer...
Why won't someone come to drive them away?

Don't rest too long,
it's a mistake you can't take back.
Take one lying down
for a change.
& oh,
it's like cleaning up
after an orgy
when it's over,
I wish someone would burn this place to the ground.

---------------------

INTERLUDE WITH LUDES

I've always been behind you,
so I think we should meet.
I sharpened my knives,
so I'm gonna use them.
Oh, baby, oh.
I'm gonna smother you with my love,
forever & ever, also forever.

Acid & poison & chemicals baby,
is what I mean to provide.
I know together we'll make the possible,
totally impossible.

If you want me I'm yours,
and even if you don't want me.
I'M TRAINED & LICENSED & ARMED TO THE TEETH
I think you'll agree.
It's so hard to apologize...
so I'm just gonna skip it.

Sleep deprivation will make you a million,
did you just hear something crazy?
I got my fingers crossed you'll catch something baby,
cuz I just threw myself at you.

Everyone run and hide,
I'm coming to find you.
Is my face still bleeding?
What is your problem?
BY THE SKIN OF MY TEETH...
that's how I'm gonna drive you.

On the good ship lolligag,
LSD & a bloody pile of rags.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news...
but I am.

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WARSAW OR THE FIRST BREATH YOU TAKE AFTER YOU GIVE UP

Can't afford to lose my head.
Can't afford to lose my cool.
You'll blow them all in king dumbcum.
Can't afford to lose my tease,
I just aim to please.

Feel like a no-tell motel painting,
out of place or ignored.
It's all medals & trophy's, trophy's and medal
& all before the race has been run.
Oh ,
take off your mask,
is
it too much to ask??
GO ON
UND GIVE IT A TRY
OR KISS
YOUR ASS GOODBYE

Autobiographical anonymous.
A cotillion of friction on my jurisdiction.
It's a lovely disguise with the wandering eyes.
I get high,
now you've got something to look up to.

Trouble's a mangy stray dog,
play with it once, then it follows you home.
It's all "have nots,
have nones,
hey can I have some's?"
Until I've HAD ENOUGH
YET I'VE HAD NONE.
Oh,
take off your mask,
lose
it into the trash...
Go on
und give it a try
or kiss
your ass goodbye.

Suddenly it gets easy.
The sun goes down.
The long arm of important things
disappears in her gown.
You finally drop
the knife,
forget you ever h....
It's such a good
night,
ain't forever.
It feels so good to give up, give in...
her arms.

I know it hurts.
It hurts to be young.
Metamorphosis is pain, I know.
I SAID IT HURTS TO BE YOUNG.
Gotta learn every goddamn thing.
You gotta hack your way through,
and realise...it's almost entirely lies.
But then you'll begin to smile.
Smile for me, real.
Wide.
Then you accept what you are.
The transforming is done.
You've become...absorbed into, & you know.
I think I know what to do


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CALIGULOVE

In the temple,
I was an offering.
Of the heartless,
I was an offering.
I was humbled
& reborn...
into a god.

Darling,
a sensitive soul is just
a tyrant who enslaves
all those around him
to make certain he
is hurt
at all times.

I don't need a reason baby,
put your arms around me.
Hold me real close,
CLAP ME IN IRONS,
come on caligulove me,
come on caligulove me.

You can hear it,
as an offering.
If you're a good girl,
as an offering.
A righteous choir is singing,
as an offering...
No, screaming,
as they burn.

Darling, there are no taboos
in lust.
My veins coarse blood that's so
venomous.
WHEN HEARTLESS HEARS A HEARTBEAT...
he's jealous.

I don't need a reason baby,
put your arms around me.
Hold me real close,
clap me in irons,
c'mon caligulove me.
I already got you baby,
put yourself upon me.
I'm in lust,
a slave to desire,
when you caligulove me.
C'mon on,
love me.
Hold me real close....
love me.
I need your caligulove girl.
Caligulove.

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GUNMAN

Gunman,
bloodshot eyes.
Gunman,
grain of sand.
Sisters,
could not speak.
Father,
is a holy ghost.
& there's lions
in a cage.

It don't matter, don't try to explain,
you're just another dog to be trained,
choke chained.
You're gonna end up under tooth & nail.
If you catch a tiger by the tail,
dont fail.

Brother,
does not dream
anymore.
Sisters,
COULD NOT SLEEP.
Transformation incomplete,
mercy killing, those counting sheep.
I'm a trigger, quick to fire,
punctuate betwixt the eyes
& you're clever...
it ain't gonna help you.

Violence is just an incomplete thought,
coming to a complete stop,
stop.
You're so clever you'll tear us apart,
then masquerade it as art.
Not smart.
If you can help anyone, help yourself,
that's unless you hate yourself,
then don't help.

Angry ants are crawling,
makes you wanna scream.

Lions clawing,
building up steam.
Flesh & bone have no persuasion,
this is the path to my destination.
Gunman,
where you been?
You're my
hero,
saviour,
psycho,
slayer.

Follow the leader yet lead 'em the same.
Slugs punctuate the refrain,
come again?
It don't matter, don't try to explain.
You're just a dog to be trained,
choke chained.
You gonna end up under tooth & nail.
If you catch a tiger by THE TALE,
DON'T FAIL.
I wanna go blind, wanna stare at the sun.
De-evolution.

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SPINNING IN DAFFODILS

Once,
out in the rain
I was able to strangle my shadow,
then unshackle the chains.
What?
What will you do?
Is it safe to play god in the garden & king of the zoo?
Holes,
well they need to be filled.
Positions available,
yet some are quite hard to get out of or get in.

Spinning in the daffodils.
Dizzy from a dozen twirls.

Cold,
alone and alive.
You're afraid, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I ASKED,
wanna go for a ride?
Sharpen your teeth my darlings,
sharpen your minds.
Take a finger, if the hand feeds you shit,
take one scalp at a time.

Fail,
as big as a whale.
Like a canine that's chasing a bone
that's tied to his tail.

I wish I was a beautiful balloon.
I would rise up
above of it all,
& fade out of view.
GRACEFULLY FADE OUT OF VIEW.
What have you turned me into?

What have you gone
and done
my love?
Incinerated in the morning sun.

I...
am so high
I just
may
never come down.

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Re: Them Crooked Vultures - выход первого альбома
« Ответ #169 : 30 Декабрь 2009, 21:28:31 »

ё-моё, То мп3 TCV, что я все это время слушала, какое-то странное, точно. Некоторые треки оказались урезанными. Сейчас слушаю в CD-качестве - затягивает, затягивает... И наконец-то на хороших колонках, не в наушниках... с EQ.

Spinning In Daffodils - отличная концовка альбома, а в самом-самом конце слайд-гитара невероятно красива... Джонс :)
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Re: Them Crooked Vultures - выход первого альбома
« Ответ #170 : 30 Декабрь 2009, 22:51:42 »

WARSAW OR THE FIRST BREATH YOU TAKE AFTER YOU GIVE UP
В этой песне потрясающая каденция
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Re: Them Crooked Vultures - выход первого альбома
« Ответ #171 : 31 Декабрь 2009, 00:00:53 »

WARSAW OR THE FIRST BREATH YOU TAKE AFTER YOU GIVE UP
В этой песне потрясающая каденция
Прошу прощения: каденция это то что на 7 мин 39 сек не так ли?
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Re: Them Crooked Vultures - выход первого альбома
« Ответ #172 : 31 Декабрь 2009, 09:29:35 »

здесь  каденция идёт чуть ли не с середины песни  
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Re: Them Crooked Vultures - выход первого альбома
« Ответ #173 : 31 Декабрь 2009, 10:23:26 »

здесь  каденция идёт чуть ли не с середины песни 
Ага, она самая.
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Re: Them Crooked Vultures - выход первого альбома
« Ответ #174 : 31 Декабрь 2009, 17:40:16 »

Спасибо за разъяснение ))
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Re: Them Crooked Vultures - выход первого альбома
« Ответ #175 : 31 Декабрь 2009, 18:02:07 »

Вообще, слово "каденция" имеет два значения:
 1) (реже называется "каданс") Сольная вариация солирующего инструмента на тему. В форме концерта чаще всего является практически обязательной фишкой хотя бы в одной из частей, но бывает и во всех, как, например в ре-мажорном флейтовом концерте Моцарта
 2) Завершающая тема произведения (чаще называется "каданс")

Вот такая путанница этими каденциями-кадансами
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Re: Them Crooked Vultures - выход первого альбома
« Ответ #176 : 31 Декабрь 2009, 19:50:34 »

Вы меня пугаете! :D
Вчера прочитала пост Борисыча и сразу полезла по словарям...  :-[

у меня это просто "такая психоделическая часть в песне" ::) ... я люблю такие вставочки... уносят в транс
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Re: Them Crooked Vultures - выход первого альбома
« Ответ #177 : 01 Январь 2010, 00:15:11 »

А че-то как-то не очень... Они по отдельности лучше звучат: Джон Пол Джонс, Queens of the stone age и Дейв Гролл со своими проектами. Объединились и получилось ни то ни се, ни рыба , ни мясо ???
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Re: Them Crooked Vultures - выход первого альбома
« Ответ #178 : 01 Январь 2010, 01:03:03 »

А че-то как-то не очень... Они по отдельности лучше звучат: Джон Пол Джонс, Queens of the stone age и Дейв Гролл со своими проектами. Объединились и получилось ни то ни се, ни рыба , ни мясо ???
Я ни Гролла, ни Квинз не слышал, но КАКИМИ ЖЕ НАДО БЫТЬ, чтобы в сравнении с ними TCV были "Ни рыба, ни мясо"?!
Сам от альбома уже 3-и сутки нахожусь в каком-то астрале. Нравится невероятно, как же они хороши!
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Re: Them Crooked Vultures - выход первого альбома
« Ответ #179 : 01 Январь 2010, 14:09:27 »

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