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pancheslav

кто-то основательно ПРИЛОЖИЛ новую книгу Стивена Дэвиса о терне ЛЗ 1975 года
разбор полетов начался с того - был ли концерт в Остине штат Техас в рамках тура 1975 года -
скажем у Дэйва Льюиса отмечен как неподтвержденный ))

In fact, he only saw the band officially at the first New York show, the three Nassau gigs, San Diego, and the two Long Beach shows. He claims to have attended the first two LA Forum shows by sneaking backstage, and then actually bought a ticket to the final show. So, all told, at most that's 11 of the 35 gigs on the 75 tour. So much for being a true "chronicle" of a tour he wasn't even personally at half of.

This is what kills his book and his credibility. He has all of these stories in there about shows that he was never at, including the Austin date, which didn't even happen. He also mentions that Simon Kirke also joined the band at the last Forum show, which Davis also claims to have been at. Yet, that isn't true either, because the recordings, photos, and even the amateur video from that show prove that didn't happen at all. And Davis was supposed to have been there! A journalist at an event, supposedly writing it all down in his notebook, and yet he's completely wrong. If he was wrong about things he was actually yet, why on earth would he be correct on things he wasn't at?

My favorite part is that Davis has pretty much been the only person outside of the band or Richard Cole to have ever talked about what it was like on the Starship. Yet, his new book reveals that he only flew on it twice, from LA to San Diego and back, a twenty minute flight each way. TWENTY MINUTES! So much for having been witness to some of the supposed debauchery, such as Bonham having his way with a stewardness or any of that other nonsense. He even admits that the band didn't even talk to him while he was on the plane, as it was packed with their entourage and other press. Yet Davis wrote in detail over and over in Hammer of the Gods about what it was like on the Starship, and all of those stories, yet the most he was ever on it was the equivalent of a long taxi ride, with half the time being spent with everyone buckled in because they were flying through lightning storms.

This book is just a condensed re-do of Hammer of the Gods. Filled with the same myths, stolen stories, and fabrications. If anything, this book pretty much does more damage to Davis' credibility than anything else, because at last we now have from his own pen that he never really spent any real time with the band, apart from a one hour interview with Robert and some 5 minutes with Jimmy in the hotel bar.

I'm with those that would argue that there never were any tour notebooks that Davis "found" from his time with this tour. That was just a premise to try and sell the same story to the same audience twice. If he had, then why are his facts consistently wrong? And why does he spend so much of his book writing about things he was never even at, while the shows he was actually at get next to no detail?

Why? Because the book is a sham. The worst part of it is that Davis spends all this time writing about how much he was a friend of Danny Goldberg (Zep's Publicist and Swan Song VP), and how Goldberg did him a huge favor by taking him on tour, and getting him the interview with Plant. And yet, look at what Davis did with that generosity? Nice way of screwing your friend over, that's for sure. Goldberg gave Davis the opportunity of a lifetime, and he paid him back by writing a pair of tabloids.

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Вообще-то Остин считается подтвержденоой датой. Льюис в обоих изданиях The Concert File от нее не отказывается, да и билет имеется

Другое дело, что Плант после выхода книги заявил, что никакого Дэйва Льюиса он в турне не помнит

pancheslav

мне кажется, что AUSTIN и HOUSTON - это как бы два совсем разных города в штате Техас - Хьюстон вполне подтвержден... это точно
о чем пишет Стивен Дэвис --- According to Stephen Davis LZ Played Austin on 3/7/75
Плант может что угодно выдумывать - есть же фото, на которых он в номере отеля сфотографирован вместе со Стивеном Дэвисом (я где-то давал ссылки на эти фото)
книгу Дэвиса о турне 75 приобрел и только начал пролистывать))))

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Цитата: pancheslav от 14 Февраль 2011, 10:19:23

мне кажется, что AUSTIN и HOUSTON - это как бы два совсем разных города в штате Техас - Хьюстон вполне подтвержден... это точно
о чем пишет Стивен Дэвис --- According to Stephen Davis LZ Played Austin on 3/7/

Пардон, спутал произношение. ? марта уже и из списка сомнительных выкинули

STRANGER

Скажите пожалуйста ,уважаемые форумчане, где можно приобрести эту книгу?

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На Ибее, на Амазоне, на АбеБукс

STRANGER

Спасибо!

Bill

Цитата: pancheslav от 14 Февраль 2011, 10:19:23

мне кажется, что AUSTIN и HOUSTON - это как бы два совсем разных города в штате Техас - Хьюстон вполне подтвержден... это точно
о чем пишет Стивен Дэвис --- According to Stephen Davis LZ Played Austin on 3/7/75
Плант может что угодно выдумывать - есть же фото, на которых он в номере отеля сфотографирован вместе со Стивеном Дэвисом (я где-то давал ссылки на эти фото)
книгу Дэвиса о турне 75 приобрел и только начал пролистывать))))

то что он сфоткан в номере отеля не означает что был концерт, скорее это говорит что они были в этом городе

pancheslav

))) речь не о концерте, а о том, встречался ли Плант со Стивеном Дэвисом - точно что встречался

http://s683.photobucket.com/albums/vv197/Lenjia/Led%20Zeppelin/Robert%20Plant/?action=view&current=StephenDavisandRobertPlant1970.jpg&sort=ascending

книгу Стивена Дэвиса о турне 1975 года лично я в Хельсинки приобрел )))

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Интересно, как фотография 70 года показывает, что Плант должен помнить Девиса в туре 75го?

pancheslav

http://www.tightbutloose.co.uk/tblweb09/?p=7442
а здесь Плант и Дэйв Льюис

и фото Планта и Дэвиса не 1970 года - это кто-то написал, что 70-го как обычно )))

если кому интересно - вот еще можно глянуть
http://mvgazette.com/article.php?28197

фотки смотрите внимательно по этой ссылке
https://www.petersimon.com/cgi-bin/store/imageFolio.cgi?direct=PHOTOS_Led_Zeppelin_75